I remember seeing these guys live at the Chance Theatre in Poukeepsie NY back on either 02 or 03 it was a reunion show , always have been and will be my personal favorite and in my opinion the best hardcore/metalcore band of all time , so much musical talent it just oozes out of every song. Gotta say seeing them live was a moving experience , the energy these guys brought to the place was wild, the were just the opening band but they easily took the entire show by far. Forever a true fan